Roddy Gayle Jr Reacts to Dusty May Leaving Michigan and Championship run. Go Blue ep 38

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I keep thinking back to the Iowa game when Michigan was trying to keep that unbeaten road record going. Two-point game. Roddy Gayle gets a huge block. Then he gets a steal and then Bennett Stirtz goes to shoot the game winner and Roddy Gayle right in his face. Uh a sixth man elite. Remember the national championship game. I’m going to ask him about that last play where he grabbed the rebound and threw it the length of the court allowing the clock to run out. Roddy Gayle is our Michigan Man interview in the second half of the podcast. So, what are we going to talk about today? What’s new on the basketball front?

It’s been 87 days since Michigan won the national championship and we have a bombshell. Uh Dusty May has shocked not only the college basketball world but the sports world uh by taking the job is in the process of taking the job for the Dallas Mavericks. Um and his sudden departure has Michigan fans decimated by the news. Um look I I have to be honest. I am surprised and I’m disappointed. But I I will say this that when I’ve talked to Dusty May in the past, I know that he is a basketball savant. He’s fascinated by the challenges of operating a program at the highest level.

He loves the idea of playing with guys like Cooper Flagg and Klay Thompson and Kyrie Irving. There’s no doubt about that. Um but the timing was a little bit strange to me. Michigan’s players arrived on campus last week. They had a big golf fundraising event that a lot of the players took part in. They have practice scheduled today at 12:00, tomorrow at 12, Wednesday at 12. I’m not sure if those practices have actually happened. And I also think that that Dusty was in a great position in Ann Arbor. Uh, the Mavs last season, one of the bottom 10 teams in the entire NBA. Their record 26 and 56.

Michigan won 11 more games than the Dallas Mavericks last year. Uh, the thought is Cooper Flagg is a transcendent player and Dusty was really caught in the allure of coaching him. And I’ve often thought that Dusty will leave. I I kind of felt like he might take the Orlando Magic job about a month to 6 weeks ago and at some point he was going to leave Ann Arbor. When he talked about coaching at Michigan, he said, “I will not leave Michigan for another college job.” And that’s when I became concerned because what he was screaming is that I’m going to the NBA. I don’t know when it’ll be.

Maybe it’ll be next year, the year after that. But every time an NBA job becomes available in the future, I just thought we’re going to be thinking Dusty is leaving. On the other side of this, I am happy for Dusty May to realize that NBA dream. I remember before a couple games that I was broadcasting this year, I think it was specifically the La Salle game, and I was talking to Dusty in his office, and he was talking about the Golden State Warriors baseline out of bounds play that he saw. And I think that he was watching so much NBA and college and international. He just loves basketball.

And I think that in the back of his mind, he knew that he would always take that job. He’s a proven winner. He delivered a national championship for Michigan. He coaches Cooper Flagg. Kyrie Irving, Klay Thompson, Dereck Lively. He’s going to love that. Also, one of the things that popped into my mind, I just keep wondering about his contract with Michigan. Um, Warde Manuel said at the parade that Dusty is locked up with a new contract. I wonder if he ever signed it. That’s an important question to ask. However, I think that there’s an internal move that appears really promising to me.

Assistant coach Mike Boynton at Michigan is an excellent, excellent choice. He knows the system. He’s got the relationships with the players from recruiting them. He has familiarity of what a national championship run in Ann Arbor looks like. He’s the architect of the Michigan defense. He was the head coach at Oklahoma State. You may know one of his players, the Pistons, Cade Cunningham. And he had a major major role in recruiting this roster and being able to give Michigan the best chance to retain their talent.

I think that that it was a really good sign. uh reported by Sam Webb, our good buddy, said that the Michigan players have said that they want Mike Boynton to be promoted as the interim coach. Interim gives you a lot of flexibility. Okay, you can take off interim if the Michigan team is soaring again this year. If things don’t work out, you can start the process of finding a new coach at the end of the season. Now, here’s the reason that I think it’s so important that Mike Boynton get the job as Michigan’s head coach.

Once Dusty leaves, if it is actually finalized, the players have access to a special coaching change transfer portal window that begins 5 days after the coach leaves and will continue for 15 days after that. There will be programs all across the country that are going to attack Michigan’s roster. The players need to know who their coach is and what his system is. Mike Boynton would answer that question. Can you imagine teams from all over the country, Washington, Arizona, Kentucky, everybody is going to try to attack Michigan’s roster.

Um, and the reason that would make me very sad is right now when you look at the rosters in the Big Ten, you look at returning players, you look at depth, you look at incoming talent, Michigan and Illinois have the two premier rosters in the entire Big Ten. Hang on a second, I’m a little bit thirsty. OLIPOP is our new sponsor along with Michigan Medicine. So good. I can continue. I don’t believe this was a long-term courtship between Dusty and the Mavericks. I don’t think that Dusty May was expecting to leave. He’s just recently hired an assistant coach.

He’s been at all of the elite high school camps scouting for next year’s roster. Is he still chasing the Serbian Wayne Nicola Kusterica? uh that that might have been a possibility before this all came about today. So this has been an interesting process. Moving forward, today’s landscape has changed so much. The blueprint to succeed is really clear. You get yourself a really good coach. You hit the recruiting portal really hard. You keep upgrading your facilities.

This would have been devastating five years ago when you needed to bring in talented freshmen and develop them as sophomores and let them be stars as junior and senior. That’s not the case anymore. It’s all about the portal. My overall feelings, I’m disappointed. Dusty was the best coach that Michigan basketball ever had. I’m excited to see the new direction. The near future is looking really bright. And I’m also really happy for Dusty May. I have become an immediate fan of the Dallas Mavericks. I want them to win a lot. I want him to chase his dream of winning an NBA title.

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And I have to ask you, how is life different as a national champion? I mean, words can’t really describe everything that you’ve been through and having accomplished that moment with your team and the people you really went to war with throughout the course of the year. Words can hardly explain, but you know, I’m just taking it one day at a time and getting ready for the next steps. Yeah. and we’re really excited for the NBA draft to see where you’re going to end up. We’ll get into that. The shocking story of the day is your coach, Dusty May, to the NBA. What are your initial thoughts on his departure?

Are are you shocked like I am? Most definitely. Uh waking up this morning, I did not think that was going to be on on my notifications this morning. So, I think that’s shock, but I think it it fits him well. um he really I think he really can adapt to the NBA culture and just like at the end of the day I think coach May really enjoys basketball. So I think he’s going to just fit right in as far as um just understanding what it takes to be an NBA coach. It does make sense. He he’s a great great basketball mind. He’s the ultimate competitor. He’s also highly motivational.

Looking back on it, did do you get the sense that that he was always studying the NBA and Europe and high school? Like he just always was trying to be innovative. What what um what what were your favorite things about playing for Dusty May? Yeah, like you said, he’s very innovative as far as um I feel like every time I seen him, he was always watching some some game, whether if it was NBA, EuroLeague, or even when the FIBA um games run, he was really into that.

So just his brilliant mind to be able to try to find stuff that works at different levels and try to implement it um to us and be able to teach it I think has been you know very helpful in my journey. Um and I just think that um the success that he had at Michigan will pro would definitely um carry over into the NBA. I’m going to make a prediction. I don’t know if it’ll be a draft pick or a free agent, but I think that Roddy Gayle ends up on the Dallas Mavericks next year. What would you think of that? I it’ be a great amazing opportunity especially already understanding how coach May will want me to play.

So I think it it’d be great great opportunity. U there there are a lot of rumors flying around about who the successor to Dusty May would be. A lot of reports are circulating that Mike Boynton who has head coach experience would be elevated to the interim position. Do you like that idea? Do you think it’s a good option? And what what can you share about Coach Buon? Yeah, I think it’s a great option. Um, Coach Mike has been there every step of the way. I think he was as much as a head coach alongside of Dusty as anybody. So, I think them two working in tandem was made us um as great and as powerful as we were.

I think Coach Boynton has the experience, like you said, um he has the all the characteristics um to keep this machine going. So, um, I’m more than excited for not only Mike, but his family as well to be elevated to that position and having everything at his disposal. I feel like, um, it’ be really good for him. My understanding, Roddy, is that he was sort of the defensive coordinator. Is that accurate or did everybody share it?

Basically, I think everybody had a piece of the pie, so to speak, but he his main focus is definitely defensively. you um you probably were recruited by Mike Boynton um in the transfer portal. His job will be to retain the players to make sure that that all these young guys stay and don’t leave. What um what do you remember about him as a recruiter? Does he have that big- time ability to connect with players and get them to understand his vision? Yeah, absolutely. I feel like if not all, majority of the guys have been recruited by coach Mike.

So like I think that they already built that relationship as far as um understanding who he is, things that that he expect out of those guys. It’s just I think you just looking at him as a head coach now instead of like an assistant. So, um I think he’s a really great recruiter as you can see his track record um even at Michigan and even at you know Oklahoma State like his ability to go go get guys um five stars McDonald’s All-Americans like all kind of guys and be able to get the best out of their performances.

I think just kind of a testament to who he is and I I really appreciate Mike for these past two years being able to recruit me and being able to coach me. Appreciate your insight, Roddy. Uh let’s go and have a little bit of a career conversation about you. Uh you came from Ohio State, which is such an interesting career path. Uh sophomore year you were starter, 14 points per game. You had a huge game, 32 points against West Virginia. Then Coach Holtmann was fired and you entered the transfer portal. Why did you leave? And did you ever imagine that you would go to your rival? Absolutely not.

I think um going back in my sophomore year like it was it was fun like um I had the opportunity to have the ball in my hands, you know, make decisions. I think that I was playing probably 30 plus minutes a game. So, I mean it was fun. Um but when coach got Coach Holtmann was fired, um just talked to my family, my agency about, you know, having all my options on the table for deciding if I wanted to come back or not. So, I think that was a really really big for us. Um, I did not think it was going to be Michigan.

And once they kind of hit me up and I was like kind of understanding that it was going to be, you know, reality, it took a little while for me to be able to kind of understand and, you know, accept what was going to come with it. But, um, you know, at the end of the day, I really wanted to play for Coach May and his staff, especially when, um, I seen that it was Coach May and Coach Boynton. um having prior history with coach Bon and knowing who he is um his relationships with my peoples.

I feel like uh with them two working together both offensively and defensively like I said um was going to bring it best out for my abilities and be able to showcase what I can do best and I was just going to have to look past the fact that you know I came from rival to rival. Okay. You have to be honest with me. When I was a player at Michigan I hated the players from Ohio State. I hated their color. I hated everything about them. Um, did you hate Michigan before you decide to play at Michigan? I think I want to call it a hatred, but our coaching staff and the players on the team taught us to hate Michigan.

So, like it felt like that. Um, and then when I switched over, like even I got a little push back from even the guys on the team at the time, uh, at Michigan was like, they still call me a Buckeye. Even like some of the former guys still call me a Buckeye sometimes. So, um, it’s just it’s just funny. Do do you um when Michigan plays Ohio State in football, who do you root for now? I stay out of that. I know the football fans are the worst when it comes when it comes to that stuff. So, I I just stay neutral. I just watch good football. Good. April 22nd before your junior year. That’s when you transferred.

Um what was the response from Buckeye fans? What do you remember about the social media anger? Um, when I first entered the portal, it was more like, you know, acceptance and like telling me like good luck at my next spot, you know, wishing me all, you know, all the thankfulness of, you know, everything I’ve done there at the school. And then when they see me take the visit, I think that’s when everything started to go south. I took the visit to Michigan and they was like, “Oh, like um, this can’t happen.

This can’t happen.” And then I think I committed I committed on my like a day after my visit and um and I I just was getting ready to accept you know anything to come my way as far as you know dealing with the media you know dealing with fans and over social media like it was I mean I I knew what I was stepping into for sure. What do you remember about your visit? Did you probably didn’t know a lot about Ann Arbor at that point and and what did coach May say to convince you? Um, I didn’t know much about Ann Arbor. Neither did the coaching staff.

I think it was, we were all just kind of figuring it out, uh, together. And I think that was the beauty of, you know, my first year at Michigan, my junior year. Um, nobody knew what to expect. I think we had two returners and they was doing most of the, you know, navigating the campus for us. So, um, I think it was just everybody just trying to figure it out together. And I think that’s what really made us unique. Um, and it wasn’t really Ann Arbor for me. Um, I began to love Ann Arbor for what it is.

The community, um, the people inside the community I feel like I’ve grown close to, but at the end of the day, it was, um, playing for Coach May and then everything that, you know, being a Michigan man had to offer. One of my favorite Roddy Gayle memories was against Texas A&M. You guys were down in the first half. You exploded for 26 points. um you’re off to the Sweet 16 and that’s when fans started referring to March Roddy uh dominant bench spark NCAA tournament all Midwest regional. Uh when the games got bigger, how were you able to elevate your game?

I think it was just a mentality standpoint knowing that um you know it’s do or die. Um there’s no going back like there’s no regret. I even looked at like the postseason is like a different season. like none of the stats or numbers mattered previously in the regular season or you know preseason for that uh matter and just going out there with nothing to lose. Um I was really fortunate enough to play alongside really good teammates and good coaching staff.

So I feel like those guys really encouraged me to just you know play hard at the end of the day and coach Mike taught me that basketball rewards that kind of stuff just playing hard. So um yeah that’s just kind of the secret of it. So, it’s been 11 weeks since you guys cut down the nets, and I remember being in the hotel, and a lot of the players stayed in their rooms. I noticed you were with family and friends in the lobby, and it was really a great social um view. And then when the confetti was coming down, I was watching you and you went and found your family. What do you remember about that?

Were there, you know, a lot of emotions? Was there a message from your dad? What do you remember about that? Yeah, man. It it was it was crazy. Um I think I I found my mom instantly and I just immediately cried and I haven’t cried in like forever. Like really just not a very emotional guy, but that moment like I kind of just melted in my mom’s arms and it was one of the most special moments, you know, I ever had. And I like I tell my dad this all the time, like my dad is my biggest critic ever. like no matter everything I’d done, he would always tell me like there’s more work to be done.

Um, and then in that moment, like he gave me a hug. He was like, “I’m so proud of you.” And it was just like that moment right there just was like everything on my all the stress on my shoulders just kind of washed away. And then I understood that like, you know, there’s definitely more work to be done. Like cuz I know if I earned my dad’s trust and and thankfulness to be able to to play this game and all the sacrifice that have been through, they have been through as well. um like that moment like I wouldn’t trade that for anything. He certainly guided you well.

Uh two plays from the national championship that that are etched in my mind forever. Yaxel in transition misses the layup. I have no idea how you hung in the air like that waiting for the ball to get off the rim. Um tell me about the hang time on that dunk. It was a rough game. Like nothing we could get, nothing we shot towards the basket was going down. Obviously, Yaxel playing through some injury. Like, I knew that it could be a possibility that the ball kind of rolls off. So, I mean, coach always tells us to just follow the ball no matter what cuz you never know what could possibly happen.

So, um I knew it was a one-on-one fast break with Yaxel. Um I didn’t see his move the Euro step. So, um I knew I had an opportunity to be able to, you know, play the miss if it came off. But then as soon as I jumped um I realized that like the more I jumped the more like reality was coming in my mind that the ball was coming off the rim. So I had to wait as long as possible. Um and then at the last moment I was able to like get the ball over the rim. I thought they were going to come for goaltending. So uh I was a little nervous but when they didn’t man it was just energy shifting moment.

The other play I want to ask you about I always feel like you’re a real cerebral player. Uh, you grabbed the clutch rebound with six seconds to go and before they could foul you, you just threw the ball to the other end of the court. Did Dusty May, did one of the assistant coaches tell you to do that or was that just a reaction? It was brilliant. So, Coach May actually is a brilliant mind. He he talks about this stuff all the time. How to steal time off the clock, how to steal extra possessions.

So, he definitely talked to us about just, you know, throwing the ball up in the air or miss a free throw on purpose in situations where it’s just like a second or two uh left on the clock. Um, but I seen it like Magic Johnson done it. My dad used to make me watch Hardwood Classics all the time. So, I seen Magic Johnson do it. I’ve seen, you know, obviously in soccer, you know, they got anywhere close to boy, kick it out of bounds. like those kind of things to be able to burn some some time off the clock and kind of negate a situation where you know UConn were was in the finals because of the play against um Duke.

So just trying to eliminate scenarios like that. When was the first time Roddy that you thought wow we are so good on defense we could win it all. What when was the first time you realized that? I tell everybody it was like early season probably right before Vegas. We had a really tough game against TCU. Um, and we seen how physical they were defensively. Like we knew TCU wasn’t the best like skillfully. They didn’t have the most size, but they played really hard on defense. Um, and then uh we were able to scavenge out a victory.

And then um practice I think in over the next few days like we understood that um if we’re going to be good, we’re going to have to hang our hats on defense and allow baskets to come in transition or off of miss basket. So, um I think it was that first game in Vegas where we determined that we’re going to be the def defensive team that we know we can be. Um and then we just kind of started to see success in that game and then that just kind of carried on throughout the course of the season. What would you say was the best game that you played this year?

I would think the best game that I played uh Michigan State senior night I think was a very special moment for not only me but my team as well. um being able to um beat the Spartans um at home senior night was an amazing feeling. You and Yaxel and Trey McKenney seemed like you had a really good relationship. You did a lot of really fun stuff on social media. Uh what was that relationship like for you? Yeah, man. And it was just like building a bond uh off the court is just really good for me because like I’m not usually when I’m not playing basketball like I’m on video games.

I’m like by myself just kind of at home you know bored stuff like that. So I think it was Yaxel Trey guys like that were able to kind of get me at the house and get me uh moving a little bit but play video games with me stuff like that. So building that bond, I think I look at those guys like my brothers. Like I’m going to New York tomorrow to support, you know, Yaxel Morez and D guys um that’s in the NBA draft. I think that’s just a bond you can’t break. Um even to this day, I think each and every one of us are still active in the group chats. Um and just cherishing, you know, the moments that we had together.

Roddy, I I like your NBA chances uh because so many players can’t accept coming off the bench and they they start throughout high school and college and and you’re you’re made to be able to play whatever minutes, whatever role. What tell us about the draft tomorrow? Did you say you’re going to be with your teammates? And is there a team that that that you would want to go to? Maybe somebody that you tried it out for? Yeah, I mean I’m I’mma be in uh New York. Yaxel is having a little celebration thing, so I’ll be there with them. Obviously, Morez and Aday as well.

Um being able to see the guys and and looking at everything that you know we’ve been through over the course of the year. Um seeing their developments um not only on the course but off the court as well. Um for me personally, doesn’t really matter what team um I end up on. Just what whoever gives me opportunity be more I’ll be more than h happy. Um I know whatever I get, I’m going to have to work for. um and just give thanks to to Coach May.

Um at first it was kind of hard for me to come off the bench um having you know the career that I have and then realizing that you know this may be a reality for me but um Coach May helped me uh understand and you know make it feel comforting for me. Um that being a new role for me I haven’t really been able to embrace. Um, and then since that moment, um, probably like my junior year when I first started coming off the bench, um, he was a big key for me to be able to understand mentally that it’s not, you know, when I go in the game, it’s what I do when I’m in it. So, I think that was just a big takeaway for me.

Uh, you’re the first athlete from Niagara Falls to win a national championship. I remember in seventh grade we hopped in a bus and and my my grade went to Niagara Falls. What’s it like being from Niagara Falls? Like is it something when you’re home you go and check out Niagara Falls or is it not big deal? I mean it’s not a big deal for people who stay here. I think in my opinion especially when you got like a you know tourist attraction in your hometown like people don’t really go and visit but you know just being from Niagara Falls I wear that on my chest.

Um um just being somebody that kids can look up to and and realize that there’s hope. Um coming from a small neighborhood, a small town to be able to achieve their dreams and be able to keep pursuing any path that they want to understanding that, you know, there’s maybe bumps in the road, but you know, eventually you’ll get to where you want to be. I know a lot of players had recaps with Dusty after the season. Did you have a a meeting with Dusty? And can you share what was talked about? No. Yeah.

Um and then it was just like talked to coach May and then he told me that he watched um some games back and then uh he told me that he didn’t understand the invisible plays that I made like in the moment. So he went back and watched games and he told me how how grateful he was for me being able to play my role and make those invisible plays whether it was setting screens or boxing out things like that that don’t really show up in a stat sheet.

So that was very comforting seeing like hearing from the head coach weeks after we won the national championship and he’s re-watching our games, rewatching the film and seeing little things that may have not been highlighted or overlooked. As you think back to 11 weeks ago, there’s the confetti, the cutting down the net, the afterparty, the parade, the banner. What is going to be that number one memory that really sticks in your mind? The the horn sounded and the whole bench was just sprinting towards all of us. I think it was just a moment of just like relief.

Um all the sacrifices that each and every person on the team has made um in previous years, whatever situation they were in, you know, they came to Michigan and they bought in to you know, bought into winning. Um, everybody I feel like could have done more in different programs, but everybody putting their pride aside and being able to come together for the common goal of winning and then celebrating that with my teammates all week. I would say was just an amazing feeling.

And coming back, I think the parade was something like I would have never imagined the kind of love we got on a cold, windy weekend, Saturday morning. It was lots of love. Um, so it was amazing, man. I am I want to close today with some quick hitters. Just short questions, fast response. Four years from now, five years from now, which of your Michigan teammates will be the best NBA player? I think four years from now, Aday. Die. I agree. I agree. Um, toughest Big Ten venue to play in LA and loudest arena. It’s It’s between Purdue and um Michigan State. Got it.

And then what was the biggest basket of your um NCAA career? Biggest basket? Probably I would say not mine, but my assist to Trey in the national championship game. Um what’s the most points you ever scored in a game at any level? I think it was the the 30point game at Ohio State my sophomore year. I know. That felt good. That felt great. Um, why did you choose number 11? Um, I felt like a bunch of guards from my hometown were number 11. And then I just kind of looked at it as um like the Roman numerals, too. Like I’m a junior.

So, um, just kind of a honor to my dad. before the La Salle game, I believe it was, I saw Yaxel wearing your uniform. Um, I think it was to show respect and appreciation. Is that the first time you saw that? And why did he do it? Did you ever talk to him about it? So, you can’t Yaxel does Yaxel. So, I think that’s what started it where, you know, we would wear each other’s jerseys, wear other jerseys, things like that.

Um but he definitely yeah that was like the first time where he was just like yeah like you’re my favorite player you’re my role model and then like he was just kind of honoring me to um his journey. I think I played a big role in this transition to Michigan. So I think that was um what started it. Roddy, when you’re done with basketball, what will you be doing? Real estate. Uh hopefully. Um, that was always a goal of mine to be able to to dig into the real estate um and just um yeah, own land, own property with NIL opportunities. Have Have you purchased any real estate? Not yet, but um I was going through it.

I know a bunch of Michigan alumni has been super helpful in this process. So, um I was just waiting until, you know, obviously it was a rough time, especially with um national championship and then, you know, the NBA process coming along. Um, but over the course of the summer, I think I would be able to, you know, own some property. Do you have a hobby away from basketball? It’s probably video games. I think I spent a little too much time. All right. And you um, you signed with Roc Nation. Have you ever met Jay-Z? I have never. No. Uh, he’s he’s a hard guy to get in touch with. I would imagine.

That’s cool to have him as an agent. I know he’s probably the owner and not the the day-to-day grind guy, but Well, Roddy, I just am so impressed with your career. It’s been a lot of fun for all of us to watch. I I can’t thank you enough for taking time on this really busy day, and I am going to be rooting so hard for the right team to sign you. Uh see you out in Las Vegas for summer league and congratulations on being a great Michigan man. Thank you. I appreciate it. And we also want to hype OLIPOP, our new sponsor this week. Check it out, Roddy. You’ll like it a lot. Yes, sir.

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